ELD Mandate: How Has Your Business Been Affected?

Posted: 18 Dec, 2017 by Matt Sullivan


249 Comments

Categories: Trucking Regulations

Tags: CarrierBrokerShipperOwner-Operator


After years of delays, changes, protests, and more delays, the ELD mandate is finally here. The new FMSCA regulation requires interstate motor carriers to have electronic logging devices installed in their trucks in order to track their drivers' hours of service. Most of the large carriers have been using electronic logbooks for years, so the new rule is expected to affect small carriers and owner-operators the most. 

Right now we're in the "phase-in" period, which will last until April 1, 2018. Until then, trucks that are found to be out of compliance won't be placed out of service, and fines or citations won't count against the carrier's CSA score. So far, different states have had different approaches to enforcement.

We want to know what everyone's experience has been so far under the new rules.

Carriers: Did you install ELDs in your trucks before the mandate? Are you still waiting for the hardware to show up? Have any brokers or shippers told you that you had to have ELDs before hauling their loads? Have you changed the way you go about dispatching drivers?

Truck drivers: Have you gotten a citation for not using e-logs? Have you been subject to deeper scrutiny when it comes to inspections? Anything different with your experiences at the shipper or receiver's docks?

Freight brokers: Do your shipper customers require the carriers that haul their freight to have ELDs installed? Do you ask about ELDs when looking for trucks to cover your loads?

Shippers: Are you requiring all your freight to be hauled by carriers using ELDs, or are you waiting until the end of the phase-in period?

Let us know in the comments. What's different out there today, and what hasn't changed?

 

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    Carlos

    • 12/21/2017 10:19:25 AM

    rand mcnally eld 50 , bought 4 units . 1 did not pair, 2 not working properly and the other glitches. the biggest problem customer service line busy or like 1 to 2 hours waiting for answer. eld suck!!!!!!!!

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    Alan

    • 12/21/2017 10:20:24 AM

    My experience so far not running an ELD hasn't really been anything different. I've had NO one even ask about them. No broker , shipper or receiver has inquired about them and haven't seen any law enforcement checking.

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    Ado Pehlic

    • 12/21/2017 10:21:30 AM

    We at Mustang Express LLC do believe this ELD Mandate was not a good idea. We are creating more problems at shippers and receivers and putting more stress on drivers, dispatchers, and brokers. This mandate should only be used for unsatisfactory carriers with bad CSA scores in order to improve their company. These other companies should be not be getting restricted if they are doing their job right.

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    charlie worzel

    • 12/21/2017 10:22:05 AM

    Turned the truck in..

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    Tony

    • 12/21/2017 10:26:34 AM

    Already lost 2 drivers that are not tech savvy

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    Mike

    • 12/21/2017 10:27:40 AM

    It put me out of business. I run a Oilfield frac sand fleet. You can't have one man running one truck and do oil field loads. Communism has caught up with us. Next we will have a solid red flag!

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    Ed

    • 12/21/2017 10:27:43 AM

    With the ELD all I do is sleep n make more money the lanes I run are paying a lot better.

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    Pt

    • 12/21/2017 10:29:09 AM

    Eld is ok for now as we kick our speeds from 65 too 77mph and no safety worries just get the loads done at all cost , cvsa don’t matter we have 5 dot # secured.

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    VAL S

    • 12/21/2017 10:30:47 AM

    The keep trucking we had quit working last week we cannot get ahold of anybody , are drivers supposed to pick up a load and Boise Idaho last Friday before noon he started from Portland Oregon when he was approaching Boise he was falling asleep and he decide to go to bed before he kills anybody because the pickup location does not have parking for trucks so when he woke up in the morning he could not pick up his load because the company was closed by noon we lost the load but that's okay but he if he would try to get it all the way to destination and pick up that load and the Sleepy conditions I guarantee you he would flip over or kill somebody and that's what's going to happen because everybody's going to realize I cannot stop because I will not be able to drive early in the morning to my destination which 5 or 10 miles away this is going to happen ELD is not safety he will cause more accidents because there's no parking places it's only for spying and controlling the drivers that's it

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    Juquila Trucking

    • 12/21/2017 10:31:48 AM

    This new ELD Mandate is a waste of time. We are relying on technology too much. The physical log books are much better. Get rid of this mandate!

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    Steve

    • 12/21/2017 10:32:48 AM

    No one so far has cared if we have ELD's. They just want a truck, and don't seem to care about the rate either as long as you can deliver a trailer to load. Load to truck ratios over 60 to 1 may have something to do with that.

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    Chris

    • 12/21/2017 10:32:48 AM

    Still waiting at the docks to be loaded/unload. Nothing has changed, even after notifying brokers. Shipping & receiving need to be held more accountable, but being told they are doing their best, they can't find employees to fill positions. Drivers want nothing more than to load and go. With the new regulation we have one lane, will be loosing $1,900.00 per week.

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    PG

    • 12/21/2017 10:33:01 AM

    Yes, it has greatly impacted our business. Shipper and receivers are not ready at all. We had to cancel several loads already due to time constraints and shippers not working efficiently. I'm not going to take any loads without factoring in money for sitting and delays. That's the reality now... Hope everyone does the same...

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    Marina Andreyreva

    • 12/21/2017 10:33:03 AM

    ELDs were installed in all my trucks before the ELD mandate. There have been many changes in dispatching. So far, all delivery times have been rescheduled due to long hold times at the shipper. Problems at shippers now heavily reflect on drivers hours. This must be addressed in order to operate efficiently for both drivers and company owners. Brokers need to be aware of HOS and understand the law in order to build freight accordingly.

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    Mike Broaddus

    • 12/21/2017 10:34:00 AM

    My phone has been blowing up this week. Brokers are begging me to pull loads for 25%+ more than they paid last week.

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    Nik Verrecchia

    • 12/21/2017 10:34:06 AM

    I wanted to be compliant with the mandate but the week before Telogis, the Verizon company that took over Volvolink decided that they will not offer the service to single trucks, only to fleets. So my fancy 2017 tractor, with it’s satellite built in ELD as a selling point is useless for the mandate. The large corporations win. I am leasing my tractor to a larger company after the first of the year. That is what they want, to push the single truck owner out after all.

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    john o.

    • 12/21/2017 10:42:03 AM

    I am a 1 truck operation owner operator Run Regional 500 miles or less, load and unload daily, more than half of my time as sitting in a dock what am I supposed to do when the shipper receiver takes forever and I run out of time sitting in the dock I feel like I'm in now in the sweatshops " slave labor"

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    Steven

    • 12/21/2017 10:44:21 AM

    Rates are super low Probably tons of guys on paper.....still

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    Hashi

    • 12/21/2017 10:44:26 AM

    ELDs is only punishment for drivers at least this is the way i see it, I have decided to take off till next year and gather some information from the drivers who use it first. FMSCA has to make things fair and make some regulation on shippers, receivers and brokers.

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    Steven

    • 12/21/2017 10:44:45 AM

    Rates are super low Probably tons of guys on paper.....still

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    Tara

    • 12/21/2017 10:44:57 AM

    Pure harassment for DOT!!! Brokers calling/emailing off the hook.. Trucking is the ONLY job that you could be doing nothing wrong , minding your own business and BE Harassed daily from law enforcement. So sick of this government BS.. just want to do my job and get paid.. Simple ( You would think! ) currently looking for job away from trucking.

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    Tom

    • 12/21/2017 10:48:03 AM

    Shut them down ...... That's the only thing they will listen too !!!!!!!!! Enough is enough Thanks a lot Trump we ask for your help you did absolutely nothing for us owner operators are the ones who put you in the office thanks for nothing you lost my vote

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    Renee

    • 12/21/2017 10:49:06 AM

    Have just one unit, so far not working properly. Stating that it’s in use with another truck, then it will say that I’m not driving when I am or have been driving.... no return emails or any customer service.

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    Tom

    • 12/21/2017 10:49:33 AM

    Shut them down ...... That's the only thing they will listen too !!!!!!!!! Enough is enough Thanks a lot Trump we ask for your help you did absolutely nothing for us owner operators are the ones who put you in the office thanks for nothing you lost my vote

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    Samuel Gonzalez

    • 12/21/2017 10:49:40 AM

    Total disaster, I bought JJ Keller's is not working properly, trying to get keeptrucking eld and system was down, in 3 days lost 3k

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    Charles Hurd

    • 12/21/2017 10:50:30 AM

    The ELD mandate has been a real money maker for me, well perhaps the upswing in the economy and the Holidays, and the hurricanes, whatever it is I have been getting $3 a mile to up to $4 a mile regularly from the Midwest to Maine, best rates I have ever seen, 2014 was good but now is great, and since I have a 1999 Pete and I don't have to comply and everyone else has to run ELOG makes for a perfect world. The few who don't have to wear ankle monitors should do better than usual through this governmental over reach.

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    David

    • 12/21/2017 10:52:41 AM

    I didn’t get into this business to punch a time clock. 25 years in this industry,, thinking of hanging it up. Too much bs and not enough money anymore.

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    Michael

    • 12/21/2017 10:53:31 AM

    ELD's are a safety issue. It has become more difficult to find a safe place to park. I have seen trucks parked on a major interstate due to ELD's. Some are parking early so that they can stay compliant, creating more challenges for drivers to find safe parking areas. ELD equipped trucks often speed through work zones and truck stops, endangering workers and the public. Most driver's with whom I have spoken who run ELD's are more stressed. According to an article that I read a few months ago, accidents involving big trucks are up since ELD's have become more widespread. Compliance costs have increased expotentially for smaller carriers and owner operators. In fact, compliance costs have now been passed along to the owner operators who are leased to carriers. One owner operator told me that his carrier is charging him $100/month for his ELD. As of a couple of weeks ago only about 37% of carriers are compliant. Paper logs can be purchased for about $15/year. I met one small carrier with 5 trucks who told me that he will continue to operate with paper logs until caught, at which time he will simply go out of business. Another carrier I know that has 5 or 6 truck's told me that he doesn't know how he will be able absorb the costs. ELD's do nothing more than paper logs except raise the cost of compliance and make roads less safe. Enough is enough. Truckers need to stand up and refuse to install these ELD's. If enough drivers refused the government would need to either get rid of ELD's or deal with empty grocery shelves and a stalled economy. Truckers don't seem to understand the power they have if only they would stick together.

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    Troy

    • 12/21/2017 10:55:33 AM

    The ELD Has affected us a little. The shippers still want you to move there loads for a cheap rate. I always have wondered if shippers and brokers work for a reduced rate. Do the fedex and UPS pilots work for a reduced rate...no. Most of the big regulations that are implemented don’t help smaller businesses. It’s not gonna get any better.

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    Charles Harris

    • 12/21/2017 10:58:36 AM

    I missing a load a week and late on appointments causing me to use up my time to drive . losing time with my family getting home on Saturday and have to leave out the next day , not getting a reset . forced to drive cause this ELD doesn't stop ticking

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    Steve B

    • 12/21/2017 11:00:06 AM

    I'm done been trucking o/o for years have made a good living at it running safe never had any problems with log books been checked many times but can't stop for a rest break because time want let me so retire or run Eld I feel sorry for the o/o big company's I hope you all go broke!

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    Glenn M. Griffith

    • 12/21/2017 11:09:33 AM

    I am an owner operator Faith Transporter Inc. It has put me out of business. Sold my equipment.

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    Gayle

    • 12/21/2017 11:09:37 AM

    As a broker, I have spent way too much time since Monday re-working loads that were set but due to elds, had to be delayed by anywhere from 10 -15 hours - which threw most of the loads into the next day delivery. I don't know how the carriers are going to make a profit this way. Too much time to go from point A to point B. And I know personally several career drivers, 30 + years with zero incidents who hung it up on Monday and they are looking for regular jobs. Freight is slow this week, and will be next....and many carriers are doing doing yearly maint. so I don't think anyone has a clear picture this week. I think the first week or second week of Jan. is when it will tell the tale.

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    Doug

    • 12/21/2017 11:12:00 AM

    First of all they’re not going to ask , it’s the last thing they want to know. They just want their freight delivered, in most areas of the country. I decided to sit this week out but did initially have trouble with the Transflo system. Just going to increase rates and run less, or let it sit .. simple as that

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    Joshua

    • 12/21/2017 11:13:09 AM

    Was suppose to have all my Omnitracs units 2 weeks before the mandate, some shipping error occurred now still waiting. Scale houses pull my trucks in issuing warnings but I can't stop. Just going to slap the stickers that I have on the sides and wait for my units.

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    Jessie

    • 12/21/2017 11:14:29 AM

    No one so far has cared if we have ELD's. They just want the trucks and doesn't seem to care about the rate either as long as you can deliver load. The new ELD mandate is a waste of time. We are relying on Technology too much. The physical log books are so much better. We wants to get rid of this mandate.

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    Karen

    • 12/21/2017 11:16:36 AM

    All I'm doing now is cancelling loads because shippers and receivers are still taking their sweet time and making us run out of time..... Its going to hurt everyone.....

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    Bob

    • 12/21/2017 11:20:14 AM

    I will put carriers on a side. No-one is prepared for this, not even the Dot themselves. The whole industry is facing a problem. Good luck to everyone

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    Mike

    • 12/21/2017 11:27:13 AM

    I'm probably an exception but the ELD hasn't had a negative affect on me yet. Had one load that paid $725.00, got 3 hours detention paid, and was 3 hours late for the delivery. Broker is paying me $2500.00 to redeliver the refused load instead of me storing it. The consumers will be the ones paying for this mandate. As long as we work together to blacklist shippers that don't appreciate our 2 hour dock limit, our job should get easier and/or profitable. We just need to work together and the government can screw everybody with the ELD mandate and not just the carriers and drivers.

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    Bosnia

    • 12/21/2017 11:27:16 AM

    I sold my truck...

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    Demitriy

    • 12/21/2017 11:27:57 AM

    Get rid of them! Period! Chance of getting in to an accident increased about 50%.

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    Phylis

    • 12/21/2017 11:28:18 AM

    We waited till the last dying moment to put ELD's in our trucks hoping the mandate would be overturned. Finally settled on Big Road with Verizon Tablets, they are working very well so far, not too difficult for even our tech challenged drivers (with a few minor glitches on the drivers part) but have been able to fix those on the admin side. Our business will suffer due to the wait times at shippers and receivers - have drivers getting within 100 miles of the yard and have to shut down for 10 hours instead of coming home for the night and being ready to pick up the next morning, affecting how we have to schedule our runs. It is just another way for the government to take over another portion of our lives and for big brother to keep track of us. Amazing how my older trucks that don't need ELD's, can run legally with paper logs and get my drivers home for the night. I am sure that the exemption for 1999 and older rigs will change in a year or two as well. Won't be buying additional trucks for our fleet anytime in the near future.

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    Larry

    • 12/21/2017 11:31:10 AM

    We bought Roadlog ELD Friday 12/08/17, we had it installed and then put in laptop information. The keys would not sync , my Apple laptop was not compatible ,no one told me that until a guy called me on the 15 (after numerous calls to them, on hold forever). Had Best Buy upgrade my laptop, went to do the update with Roadlog, they took the system down for 2 days to due maintanance, so here I am 2 weeks later and have yet to see if its going to work. Was onsite to load in TX at 8am, not loaded till noon, then had to tarp....just ate up many hours ....not helping my one truck, owner operator attitude. I have to drive my truck harder now, I have to go faster now to get where I am going . So much for health of truckers, they say to get out of truck, stretch your legs, get some exercise, when? That will count against us when we do our DOT physicals.....I know a trucker who was told by his dispatcher he had to take a load because they new he still had time and hours left to get there, it was in their computer. So much for being Independent truckers! Harassment? Yes!!! Seasoned truckers are not trying to cheat the log book, we work on 15 min.increments on paper logs, ELD is by the second. Were losing time, flexibility and the freedom to own your own truck and business without someone else micro managing you ! President Trump, we voted for you to help with regulations, know how to make America Great?, help the trucker, everyone else is sticking it to us with regulations! We are losing a lot of excellent old school truck drivers due to this...sure we have a lot of truckers out there, but how many are excellent??? We have heard from some drivers who like the ELD, stating they don't have to work as hard ...we have flatbed and step decks, we tarp, we load stuff, we are workers, we DO NOT WANT ELDS!

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    Harminderpal singh

    • 12/21/2017 11:32:25 AM

    My driver was delivering at winco Woodburn, OR. He run out hrs using ELD. He decided to sleep in there yard .there was 3 other trucks They wake them up 3.30 am told them to leave there property. This was not good at all winco employees told them they don't care not there problem.

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    Harleychikka

    • 12/21/2017 11:35:23 AM

    No one is telling us we have to have eld to haul their freight. But the eld is SERIOUSLY a problem. It don’t know when we are tired and if we are not tired when it says we are done for the day we are just screwed when the 10 hour break is up because we are awake for most of it. It seriously messes up our available drive times and rest times. Owner ops pulling our own trailers who don’t have the capability to drop and hook should be exempt. I have driven tired for weeks now since we are using the stupid eld, unlike back on paper logs where we could sleep when we were tired. It affects restfullness more than it does any freight we haul. Thanks to ceos and politicians who don’t know the first thing about actually driving a truck thinking they know what’s best for us. They need to listen to us smaller owner ops with our own authority.

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    Guy

    • 12/21/2017 11:54:14 AM

    Omnitracs keeps crashing. We were installed in time but the whole system from them is not working. We can’t even log into the in truck devices and are still using paper logs. Yesterday we had 11 trucks on the account. Today we only have 5. Its only a matter of time before we get stopped and maybe shut down. We are a major supplier for General Motors if we get shut down it will shut down General Motors as well.

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    Dale

    • 12/21/2017 11:54:56 AM

    We are using ONE20 solution and it is not working . Called in and email for the last 3 days no response other than overload system or known bug. We get more malfunction entries than any other entry. Printing out the log takes 4 pages. 3 are of malfunctions.

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    Milan Vaickorn

    • 12/21/2017 12:00:55 PM

    Speeking about coercion, I had never been so coerced in my life, until I got my ELD. Rushing ,rushing, rushing, driving maximum time lenght I can physically bare, out of fear of not being on time, not exactly health conducive (physical and/or mental), is it ? Constantly micro managing my time, being confined into a strick time frame, having almost no leeway. There is one place like that, I think they call it a prison.

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    Steve

    • 12/21/2017 12:06:34 PM

    It's having a horrible effect. All you clowns who ran around praising how rates were going to jump up and you were going to make more for working less, how's that going for ya? ELD's come in on Monday, rates drop on Tuesday. Good job, Dum Dums. Way to take the bait hook, line and sinker. You'll be the same idiots trying to convince everyone that automated trucks are the best thing to ever happen to truck drivers. You deserve a Darwin Award.

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    jack e martin

    • 12/21/2017 12:14:24 PM

    I haven't noticed too much of a change. I'm noticed a lot of guys seem to be driving faster than they used to and taking more chances. I've been out here 35 years without an accident. I'm going to give it a try but if it doesn't work out. I'm just going to cancel my authority and call it quits.

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    Doyle Sapp

    • 12/21/2017 12:16:49 PM

    Had to cancel a load today due to the excessive time waiting to be loaded last night. If the truckers are going to be regulated, then so must the Shippers and Consignee's. Any time longer than 2 hours to load or unload should required Shippers or Consignees pay detention at the rate of $100 per hour. If they do not pay, then we should have a phone number to call and report them. At this rate, perhaps the trucker can make up for the loads we will no longer haul. Shippers and Receivers will then have an incentive to plan their loads better.

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    Josh farnsworth

    • 12/21/2017 12:18:55 PM

    It has Ben the most miserable part of my Trucking career and if I didn’t think I would b throwing my self to the wolf’s I would tel u what I would like to do about it I have Ben driving do 27 yeas and o/o for eight and now have a couple of trucks and it’s Ben a hard road to the hell with tax reform trump please cut this bs red tape now

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    Gustavo Talavera

    • 12/21/2017 12:27:03 PM

    I purchased ZED CONNECT two months ago. Didn’t start using it till one week before the 18th 200 device with no monthly plan, will put you in compliance avoid fine and working properly, simple and plain. I don’t think is a big deal, just matter of change driving habits and charge more for your services if needed. There is plenty of freight, now even better.

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    David Miller

    • 12/21/2017 12:32:21 PM

    Bought RapidLog Eclipse. HAHAHA Cant get the ELD to paitr with computer. The Big Corporations that Trump protects are laughing at us. When it works I will drive at 2am in the morning because that is when it tells me I'm awake enough to drive and we can all watch the accident rate go up as Chump and his cronies continue to rip off USA Big Corporations will be the ruin of our country

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    Danny

    • 12/21/2017 12:49:02 PM

    I parked my truck going back to Hauling dirt ELD has ruined the Long Haul industry good luck everybody

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    Jeanne Wesson

    • 12/21/2017 12:50:16 PM

    Yes, our business has suffered. Some of the carriers we work with are threatening to close their doors. They are losing drivers also. This is hurting the trucking industry in our area.

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    Mike

    • 12/21/2017 12:51:33 PM

    My Business been affected financially, mentally physically and psychologically . Driver has no turn off switch as robots do, drivers feel inprisoned as with an ankle bracelet even though all they’ve done is pay tax by supporting the government. America dream is no longer here .

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    Hellbent

    • 12/21/2017 12:55:47 PM

    I use to cheat on my logs like many others for SAFETY reasons which can not be addressed by HOS regulations which is to get rest when I was actually tired. Period! End of story. For one simple reason...The government can't regulate sleep with an ELD to tell a person when its time to be sleepy. That's a function of individual law of nature not government. I use to be able to take my time and rest a couple hours here and there refreshed and stress free and still get the load picked up hauled 600 miles and delivered on the same day regardless of traffic jams, weather or maintenance problems because whenever I got sleepy I pulled over and went to sleep. Now with ELD's I can't cheat for safety reasons anymore. This means I have to keep driving when tired like that Wal-Mart driver. He had to drive while tired because he didn't get sleepy until he started driving. He was not sleepy when his ELD said it was time to be sleepy. If he had pulled over and went to sleep he would have got fired. People died but at least his ELD was correct and in compliance. I have to drive much faster now because if I take a break I'm actually burning up my drive time which can also trigger termination and when the ELD says it's time for me to be sleepy, I'm wide awake sitting there starring out of the windshield. Then when its time to drive I'm too sleepy. You can rest but the clock is still ticking which can turn a 2 hour break into a disaster. But if you not sleepy during your rest time you can't drive. That's called free labor because you can't go home. The government can't regulate sleep time because the government can't make you sleep or tired or sleepy based on a bar graph.

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    JLT Inc

    • 12/21/2017 12:56:29 PM

    Running 3 trucks with One20, 2 of them are still "working" if you want to call it that. Having same issues as everyone, malfunction error, diagnostic error, synch error, move the truck everything magically clears. My 3rd unit driver went on duty by accident Tuesday night instead of off and the ELD went ahead and put him on duty for the entire day yesterday, before hand. Unit is plugged in and he has been driving around all day yesterday and today and it doesn't recognize him at all. He doesn't even know how to text and I'm supposed to get him to troubleshoot unit. Sat on hold for One20 for 1.5 hours, finally get to talk to a guy who has no clue what is wrong, asks 'tech guys' and they have no clue either. LOAD PLANNING IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE! Rates are decent but they were before this took place. I feel this is going to boil over and it is only a matter of time that something bad happens, if it hasn't already. No one should have to countdown their day like this, absolutely ridiculous.

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    Ziggy

    • 12/21/2017 1:46:52 PM

    We lost 2 drivers, they went back on construction to work

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    MM Trucking

    • 12/21/2017 2:08:53 PM

    As a small business it will be hard to survive this. The eld is fine but the hos needs to be revised. Today there was accident with a fatality and the road was shut down over 6 hours. Legally there will be no way to deliver on time. The shipper times are just as slow as before so after sitting at a dock several and having problems with traffic. therefore it won't take long to destory us.

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    Carmen

    • 12/21/2017 2:30:20 PM

    AOBRD not working all the time. Customer service is bad. Finding a load was hard because brokers are wanting you to deliver the load not taking into consideration the HOS regulations. I could not pick up a load that loaded late afternoon because the 14 hr clock had started. My driver is speeding to make up for lost time in traffic, unloading and loading time in order to make the most of the hours he had left for the day. Was not able to use his 11 hours that day nor stop and get a decent meal. His day ended with a lot of stress and very tired because he had to drive without stopping to stretch and get some food. Took his 30 min break waiting for his pu appointment were there was nothing to eat in order to save time. 14 hour rule makes highways unsafe. It is unfair for the driver to have to work with this pressure. Eld mandate will make roads less safe. Now I understand why the mega carriers have so many accidents. Too much pressure on the drivers!!!

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    Al

    • 12/21/2017 4:01:40 PM

    I bought a Zed eld about two months ago and it has not worked properly since I've had it and the reviews that I've seen on others have the same issues. So I guess we just keep buying new ones until we get a working one? I sent a note to my senator about it via OOIDA's website and will send another to my Governor. Let's all join in so they won't just shrug off one complaint.

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    Tony Pennello

    • 12/21/2017 4:31:30 PM

    the new mandate so far has cost me a load due to a shipper holding us . Told the agent I would not the crane appointment because Ive been here at the shipper all day and needed a 10 hour break before driving to receiver 526 miles away. I was told that they would give me a truck ordered and not used. I said fine and they scrambled to get a team truck in. Second time was I ran all day pick up and delivery to back to my yard due to a major accident on the local freeway and traffic plus construction a sweeper train and real world stuff happening delay at the shipper . it cost me a full day 11.5 hours to go 126 miles. I found myself stressed out. making mutiple lane changes driving faster on the openings in traffic to beat the clock this is not about safety this is a disaster waiting to happen stop this before people die. background POLICE OFFICER, MILITARY VET, ACCIDENT INVESTIGATOR , Owner Operator

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    Dustin

    • 12/21/2017 5:00:14 PM

    With out the flexibility of paper, my normal went from 2-1/2 day to 3-1/2days now I don’t have time to load and run another load before end of week. I try to be home with my family Friday night through Sunday at lunch. (I don’t think that’s to much to ask) Now thanks to elds I will have to sacrifice 2 weekends, maybe more, out of a month to pay for truck and support my family. I now have to stop early while losing valuable time just to get parking place, or risk running in violation to get somewhere that has parking. I am now always against the clock so the stress and anxiety is a 15 on a 1-10 scale. Thanks FMCSA for making laws on subjects that your organization is totally ignorant about. These ELD manufacturers have already got rich on this deal, so now put it back the way it was. A company in the green on safety should at least have a choice.

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    Tailpipe

    • 12/21/2017 5:24:55 PM

    I am using BigRoad and it’s working fine, except it will put me in driving even if I’m just moving from the pump to the pull up lane. There’s a yard move option, but I haven’t gotten used to using it yet for these micro moves. I used to have my truck governed at 67 because that’s where I was comfortable driving. I removed that and I’m driving faster now. I’m more stressed out trying to find someplace to park within 5 miles of my receivers. Scheduling my loads is more complex and I’m afraid I’m going to have to start using brokers I don’t know or like just because they have a better pick up time than the loads with my trusted broker. (Damn 14 hour rule). It will take the industry a month or two to really grapple with this. If it increases rates, and it almost certainly will, then it will be worth it. I’ve always been very close to legal before. Usually I just needed to fudge 20 minutes or so to make a delivery. Receivers better get used to deliveries coming late, or start offering on site parking. And brokers need to stop accepting loads that are illegal. They need to be the first line of defense.

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    I u cuc

    • 12/21/2017 6:28:10 PM

    I work with landstar eld the best way help drivers and make them get more sleep

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    Robert

    • 12/21/2017 6:46:57 PM

    Turned my keys over to the finance company. The small operations like myself have endured enough of these super regulations, laws and guidelines designed to restrict and discourage anyone from starting their own business. Wake Up People, it's not about "Safety", it's about control. There isn't a year that goes by that FMSCA doesn't restrict or dream up something else to make your life miserable in the name of safety, like cameras inside watching your eyes while you drive to determine the likeliness that you will have a crash. (Next) How about being stopped for a safety check and having to put up with a sleep apnea test? If you let them get away with the ELD, what horrors will be around the corner in the name of safety? I say park it and see what they do. Let them choke. Soon (less than a month) they'll change their control freak minds. They will see who has control. Problem is, they get away with it because of too many spineless breaks the line.

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    Jerry Bates

    • 12/21/2017 6:50:24 PM

    Closed my business, I'm done.

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    Luke

    • 12/21/2017 7:13:50 PM

    Started my log book at 10am mondun drove 30minutes waited at a job site until 3pm had a reload at 4pm Made it to reload waited another 3 hrs loaded had to be 400 miles away by morning didn't make it ran out of drive time slept at an old weigh station no bathroom. Because I had 23 min left and 36 miles to a truck stop. What a wonderful life!

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    Tommy Abrams

    • 12/21/2017 7:14:50 PM

    Keep Trucking ELD. Rates are still the same. Hours on Service need to be address. To much time during load and unload. Not enough over all hours to get job done. Most of my day is on duty not driving. Definitely not getting enough revenue during the HOS time to maintain same revenue. One blanket fits all. Government ( Mostly made up of lawyers) cannot run business. Flatbed Owner Operator, Own Authority. Its better for drop and hook operations, but cannot blanket the whole trucking operation with one blanket of regulations. They have manage to regulate our every move with little variance and us foot the bill again. ER doc's can work countless hours but truck drivers have to log every hour of their lives.

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    Brad

    • 12/21/2017 7:39:00 PM

    I have a set route with my own freight for a back haul. I have lost 1 load a week with ELD's. In a perfect world it always worked before. With ELD I have run out of hours 36 to 54 miles from home depending on traffic but mostly dock time loading or unloading.

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    Kevin

    • 12/21/2017 9:34:27 PM

    Here is what is so funny y'all I 've been out here 17 years in my whole driving experience this definitely the dumbest Idea ever implemented by the govt. With their new brain storm which will require all trailers now to be equipped with aero fins for all trailers. How much more stupid can they get!? How many of you have tried to pass a truck with the fins under the trailer, does it not make your vehicle unstable? Now what's going to happen to the vehicles in inclimate weather. More wrecks and deaths are going to occur as well as more accidents because we drivers are now going to be pushed for time and loads. But most importantly if you haven't figured this out now they are monitoring speeding as well. It's all a joke especially for our salaries, how much longer will we have to endure this. I've always enjoyed driving until the gov't started mandating regulations and now stipulations. I m fixing to throw in the towel. Oh yeah one more thing companies, owner operaters. dispatchers, brokers, and drivers will no longer get along because of too much stress or what ever you want to call it Hey this is just my opinion but I believe I'm dead on target with this.

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    DNS TRUCKING

    • 12/22/2017 3:56:37 AM

    I am a one truck company, I will loose anywhere between $1000 to $1500 a week. This has nothing to do with safety, I have been doing this 26 years and I know when I'm tired. They want to do Welds change the hours of service. Go back to no more than 14 hours in work day no clock and no more than 11 driving in a 24 hour day and you can break your sleeper time up but no less than 5 consecutive hours. Everybody would be happy who sleeps 10 hours?

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    Paul Collins

    • 12/22/2017 4:04:18 AM

    Electronics made things out more dangerous for us drivers and others (cars) when were out of hours we have cant move so sleeping on shoulder like the old days. Finding parking is became even harder then it already was. Now with the trucks speed limits set around 65 mph on a 11 hr day ii should be able to run 700 miles easy a day but now we have to chase a clock on a eld that continues to run down the drive time when we are parked pr sitting in traffic. Trying to get through traffic that has cars not even doing the speed limit but under it most of the time in big cities hurts our drive time as well. Eld is dumb and dangerous

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    Aaron G

    • 12/22/2017 5:36:32 AM

    No shortage of roadside inspections in Missouri and Kansas this week!

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    Hans Witt

    • 12/22/2017 6:24:15 AM

    Used ELD for 2 days, will not communicate with truck, will not let administrator adjust line 3, lost 4.5 hour of on-duty time to technical error, Eld locked pass word, because tablet goes on standby.Lost 6 hour off the 14. Your not supposed to turn off device during shift, However the refinery i was at required all devices turned off! yes they check ti verify! These ELD are a modern equivalent of a communist gulag, electronic prison camp, prisoner chain gang, and what until the road side convictions start. Industry thinks they are losing driver now, what until ROBO DOT COP just plugs your " device" into their electronic prosecuting ROBO ATTORNEY and tickets will just starting printing out. Driver will have know clue what happened. I can till by taking taking to the new drivers that the DOT has been giving them a pass for years. They have been through a true log book interrogation, they are clueless about accident investigations. The FMCSA has lied about changing the HOS rules, they have changed the HOS rules big time. As for Brokers, well , I have been trying to feel them out for the last month, and 99% are compleatly brain dead about it. other 1% this anticipating a great change that will make them rich( a competitive negotiations ad vantage that will result in screwing more money out of the carrier) Just think about they will have more time to double and triple broker the loads before a available trucks ELD lets them work. I had one, one, Customer- a real logistics person, who said that the ELD and 14 hour will make it impossible to for him and his shippers to even function, little ship freight. I will not survive this unless rates go up dramatically, and because the trucking industry is " Patron/ Client- Command control", and not" free market", I don't look for rates to really change for a while, I have been in business since 1994 and and am completely solvent, and I will not survive this. But this what the " Rent- Seeking" Big Trucking Companies want.

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    Luke Elzain

    • 12/22/2017 7:02:37 AM

    We're running out of time at shippers and receivers and they could care less ,which puts us behind on our app.Times and yet little or no compensation is offered. can't find a decent spot to park the truck at after 4 or 5 pm .the total driving -on duty time is wasted in traffics and there's no legal trick to save it .they really have to modify the rules like matching the Canadians' (13 hrs driving 16 hrs on total duty) ,otherwise a lot of chaos will be created and the industry will be driven a lot slower .the only positive thing about it is that i'm able to sleep better nowadays.

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    Hido

    • 12/22/2017 7:55:29 AM

    We are now as robots

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    Artur Logistics Corp

    • 12/22/2017 8:24:30 AM

    Hello,everybody! All big companies have AOBRD devices, they can move their log books as a paper logs. With ELD logs you can’t do anything,my driver just loosing time at the pick and delivery. They drive 700 miles for 2 days. Companies working for free and drivers too!!!

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    Jaime

    • 12/22/2017 8:36:30 AM

    We're using Cummins' ZED ELD and drivers are having issues pairing and using the system. We run a fleet of 30 trucks with average dispatches between 450-550 miles (AZ-CA). We used to be able to run the lane with next-day service but will probably have to change that to 2-day transit. Impact on our capacity will be greater than 15% loss.

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    Professional Tranportation Worldwide Association

    • 12/22/2017 10:49:09 AM

    Listen up all transportation associates and companies now is the time to stand up! Their have been attempts before to revolt against what we are dealing with now. We need to all step up from all areas of transportation and companies and owners. Let's take a stand one more time and this time lets all of us make a statement. I 've been working on some scenarios that will make them here our voices. No more weak links!! All of us owners, and companies, owner/ops, dispatchers, brokers, dispatchers, accountants, and drivers. Let's bind together to form an organized and cohesive organization which is compliant to our own needs once again to take back control and get our economy great once again. If you think of this we are the ones really in charge of making difference for our country as our government only wants to seize control of our country instead of fixing it. I'm not against my government I served my country, I believe in my fellow americans, and I believe we are a powerful country. Which brings up the next point of this address the government believes it control, not regulation our laws to create a better way is the best way to go. Without us their will be no government and since it seems they font believe this then i think its time we show them. What i am addressing is a proposal for all of us to step up and join together to make change for a better tomorrow. An alliance which ever we all agree on for ourselves, families, and our economy. No i am not saying that we just write a letter and send it to Washington only hoping they see a few name's on piece of paper, pleading our case in a federal court. I want us all to form an alliance, presenting ourselves as a cohesive organization to the media, social media, and form the biggest organization to which our government will need to reconsider the it way of thinking. If it takes going on strikes, rallies, and reforms, then thats what we need to. Since we know by now they are not hearing our concerns, we all need to be involved as a whole any fight back for our country, if we don't then it's on us for allowing them to do this. My biggest concern is this the more laws and control we allow them to take sooner than later they will have enough laws in affect to our only freedom (freedom of choice). I know this seems far fetched or that I might be a radicalism I AM NOT. Consider this while we struggle just to keep our heads above water for lower and middle class, know this the upper class will be next, because to me it seems that politicians have it their enough is not enough for them. Control is their only goal. Back to my main address once again, we all need to take a stand now before it is too late. If we're going to take a stand the time is now, even if we have fight back for our civil rights which I can live with that, it's going to take the biggest organization we can form to accomplish our goal. It's cost the government billions if dollars to create and set these laws into affect to regulate our economy by which that our tax paying money for. And now it's costing all of us billions of from our own income to support these laws, to quote/unquote protect the safety of our own misdoings, as they seem to think. My summary of my address to all of us including myself, is this I may have gone to extremes to present a case for each and everyone of us, but enough is enough. I had my share and I will no longer stand for this anymore while my family, friends, and brethren suffer day to day. I am only once again pleading a case to each and everyone of to unite, create, and join the biggest organization ever seen in the history of civilization of our country, and take it back. I love the United States of American, and I believe we have lost our freedom. But united once again we will prevail to right what is wrong. This is only my opinion not based on any facts or research, but sometimes just seeing what is happening in our world does not make me wrong. Let us all open our eyes and decide what is right and what is best for our country. Thank you for your time. K

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    Randy

    • 12/22/2017 12:02:56 PM

    I have not noticed much at the docks especially in load times. I have been more “aggressively” trying to prod the warehouses along. I will stand and watch whenever possible. I have talked to each warehouse foreman I have been at about the changes and how we as drivers do not get paid if we aren’t moving. Most assumed we were paid by the hour so delays “didn’t really matter”. We should all make a point of sharing house our end works. I still don’t understand why we are seen as the scum or low level on the pole? If we don’t move the freight, NOBOBY has a job. Not many at all realize that.

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    Dee Alain

    • 12/22/2017 1:19:38 PM

    Bad experience at the docks. A manager at "Maruchan" in Chesterfield, VA refused to unload us at our written appointment time! We are forced to wait SIX hours until the forklift operator comes into work tonight. No one here has any regard for the fact that our ELD limits our driving time. We will now be out of hours and unable to pick up our next load! ELDs don't mean ANYTHING to these people. No detention fee. We're being treated like dirt. We need a UNION.

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    I hate ELD

    • 12/22/2017 7:11:12 PM

    I closed my trucking company because of anti constitutional ELD mandate. And doing less stressfull business now.

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    Stumblefoot

    • 12/23/2017 8:32:08 AM

    ELD has really messed up on time deliverys, traffic and construction delays, along with loading & unloading. As a flatbed I have to make crane appointments. Had to violate my HOS or be fined thousands of dollars. Brokers, shippers don't give a rats ass. Get it there driver. I'll play the game. Oh and customer service with Keep Trucking is OK only if you understand people from India. Thinking of making an on/off switch for my OBD port. ....

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    Beth Jackson

    • 12/23/2017 9:20:33 AM

    The ELD that my truck requires is a 16 pin Standard 8 ISO, which most of the companies making ELDs are 6 or 9 and the few that do offer the 16 pin have no clue about the differences, and/or want a monthly subscription rate to handle my 1 truck fleet. One company offered their's for $950.00, no returns, on a maybe it will work, maybe it won't. I found another company that has it, but they were not able to get the hardware ready by December 18, 2017, so I am on a waiting list. In the mean time, I have switched over to running local--100 mile radius of shipper or starting and ending points the same. In short, I park as close as I can to the shipper, rather than at the terminal; sometimes hoping they do not enforce the parking rules. It is 50/50 on good/bad paying jobs, but it does pay weekly for the most part, but you really have to read the contracts; I had to take one to an attorney (28 pages (the most I ever received from an OTR broker is 16 pages and much of that was showing their legitimacy)). The real bad side of it is that most of the companies (some recognizable brands) are at the courier/sprinter mentality level and look for those willing to run illegally as "Independent Contractors. Another wanted me to be a broker and a carrier. Add in all sorts of hidden fees, that they say "aren't, because everyone does it," subtracted weekly such as requiring their workmen's comp. or other insurance, the app and hardware fees for pick up and deliveries, purchase/rent uniforms, their cell phone et cetera...basically, your an employee paying for their benefits.

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    John Ridders

    • 12/23/2017 9:26:17 AM

    After 49 Yrs and 6 million of being a safe Independent Small Business Trucker I’ve decided to shut down my operation because of the ELD Mandate. It is the most unsafe Law/ Regulation that has been forced onto the Trucking Industry in my history. There is absolutely no safety benefit to this and it’s only purpose is to control us or put us out of business. The FMCSA would have much better luck in improving safety in Trucking if the directed their efforts into New Entrant Driver Training and the Truck Parking shortage. Running under the ELD Mandate in my particular Niche if the Industry would cut my income by at least 30% and I’m not willing to work harder for less. Food for thought, my shutting down not only hurts me but also all the people I do business with like yourself, DAT, as I will be canceling your Load Board

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    Vic

    • 12/24/2017 8:10:43 AM

    Name a place and date when we go to WA DC to protest. No trucks, just truckers with their families on the foot, bring flags posters. Peaceful protest. If no response we all quit. Anyways it's non survivable business for us anymore. We have no choice. Without eld it was tight to get a new set of tires or some new part that needs to be changed. Now lose a day here and a day there. Get stuck somewhere on weekends. And you keep the dive in depth. Until you realise it's pointless to try anymore. So its our only option to try protest.

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    Michael Griffin

    • 12/25/2017 8:32:54 AM

    The truck stops are overflowing and rest area's. Virginia is writing parking tickets like they are going out of Style. Having stop sooner but this is not going to work all the time. The government was not ready for this.

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    Vicki

    • 12/26/2017 9:12:38 AM

    I have to wonder what the Mothers Against Tired Truckers founders have to say now? This mandate creates tired and stressed drivers. Nothing about it is safe. #TrainingNotTracking #ELDORME

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    Kyle

    • 12/26/2017 9:24:55 AM

    Has affected my home time greatly. Some loads I used to run I have to shut down within 30 miles because will run outta hrs a mile or 2 up the rd now. As far as more sleep no I still sleep about the same amount. Pay on my lanes had not increased. And I'm running my truck lots faster and harder than before trying to be that clock to actually make deliveries so I can get home Friday night to leave on Sunday morning. Instead of bring home in early am Saturday then leave sunday morning

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    David Miller

    • 12/26/2017 10:05:48 AM

    I have to drive A LOT FASTER. I also can not get the GPS to function consistently. It looks like this disaster will start effecting everyone though. Pay will go up and accidents will increase and deliveries will be late and supermarkets will inflate prices. And hopefully that DORK who works for the FMCSA and guards the bigger trucking companies profits will get hit by a speeding truck going 75. It may be the dumbest system ever devised. Any moron can see that but it allows easy pointing of blame and tracking of employees. I'm just a one man show. Got into trucking cause I hate fussy people who want to tell me what to do but in this country its a prerequisite to breathing!! As the deaths mount I will laugh at the Dumbest American agency FMCSA. SAFETY MY BUTT

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    Doug

    • 12/26/2017 11:41:41 AM

    I have missed 2 unload appointments and one load appointment already because of the ELD. Got fined $200 at one unload for being late and $100 for have to turn back the load I couldn’t make because of hours.

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    Shut them off

    • 12/26/2017 11:55:00 AM

    Who ever thought having ELD's in every truck would make the world safer has NEVER been in or road in a truck before! Yes, I believe the mega carriers should have them mainly for the dispatcher of there facility to know where they are at all times instead of calling and asking or wondering! But for a owner operator I say WHY cause the owner is usually driving the truck and knows where he is and where he needs to be! This mandate did NOTHING, but put more trucks out on the roads driving the speed limit if not a little more than the speed limit to get there load to where it needs to be before the 11 hrs are up! And for parking! I havent seen any trucks parking on off ramps and on ramps or intestate for many many years! Now it is like how many trucks can we count parking in unsafe places! It seems that the government should have thought this threw a lot longer and fixed things as not one shoe fits everyone! Everyone is different! Some are safer than others and heck who needs a machine to tell you when you need to sleep, eat or pee. My husband use to stop and take showers, have a hot meal and take a nap when he thought he needed one! But the government is saying NO you can not do that anymore! We want you to sleep on the side of the road with no place to bath or eat! Because you didnt plan your trip well enough! But how can you plan on accidents, inclimate weather, and break downs, construction area's come on the only thing you can plan is to what time to leave in hopes to get there in the time frame needed but little things do pop up that are not in the control of the truck driver. The eld will not work for everyone and they will not work with the HOS that they have in system right now!! DO AWAY WITH THE ELD"S

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    Carolyn

    • 12/26/2017 12:14:39 PM

    Not about safety rather covering management high up in mega carriers and control to take out small businesses and Owner Operators. The devices are useless and told to revert to the very thing they are trying to eliminate.. paper! Told to run ELD and paper in case ELD goes down.. isn’t that illegal to run 2 sets of logs?! Well, that’s what we’re told to do.. hypocritical!

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    Chyngyz

    • 12/26/2017 1:03:21 PM

    Hello, This people think that truck drivers are robots. They never drove a truck and don’t how it works. Hate ELD!!!!!!!!!!

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    ELDORME

    • 12/26/2017 8:46:34 PM

    No texting while driving, handsfree devices, no phone use while driving... yet we’re to jack with an ELD device while driving... disconnections, malfunctions, etc... revert to paper logs in such an event... can’t run 2 sets of books because it’s illegal but ok when using ELD. What a joke! Overturn Obama overregulation and give power back to the truck driver who knows what’s best while running their rig! ATA our to kill small businesses and Independents! Take ATA down as they don’t represent no work for truck drivers! #eldorme #failedmandate! The domino affect has already begun and the American People will Pay for it in the end! Wake up America and say no to ATA FMCSA and government don’t let them take over! They work for We the People and it’s tome America shows them we are fed up!

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    danial guise

    • 12/26/2017 9:34:04 PM

    considering i run a dedicated back and 8-2 is not recognized that gets me to my last delivery on time now i get to my first deliver aprox 8 hrs later and am about a day late geting to my last delivery

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    danial guise

    • 12/26/2017 9:34:07 PM

    considering i run a dedicated back and 8-2 is not recognized that gets me to my last delivery on time now i get to my first deliver aprox 8 hrs later and am about a day late geting to my last delivery

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    Big Boy in the Bay Area

    • 12/28/2017 5:59:27 PM

    Thank Goodness i'm a Local driver and not an interstate driver. If they Mandate ELD on Local drivers maybe i should consider making Minimum Wage Sweeping floors at McDonald's or become a Walmart Greeter for $15/hour when the New Minimum wage law goes in effect in 2 more years!! This new law will only cost small businesses $$ and damage the Frozen or Produce goods as small companies giving up and bigger companies price gouging.

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    Ruslan

    • 1/1/2018 7:16:57 PM

    I’m small company owner with 5 trucks all O/O. 2 of them already quite, went to local job. 3 trucks left and they are also thinking of quitting as well. I’ll be closing doors soon.

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    Tom Brown

    • 1/2/2018 7:09:43 AM

    Been running ELDs since they eere in BETA. My trucks have no issues and all make a good living. The problem for me is brokers. They still preplan as if we were running on paper. Raise that issue with them and its like I'm speaking latin. The solution is to convey that at pickup we MUST be loaded with in 2 hours or we will drpp the load. Because finding another is as simple as picking up the phone. Some are coming around to this and has been successful

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    Tony

    • 1/12/2018 6:39:53 AM

    Eld does not helps my business because sitting in traffic. For 3 to 4 hour I the tri state. Area. I can’t keep up with my bills

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    Tony

    • 1/12/2018 6:39:55 AM

    Eld does not helps my business because sitting in traffic. For 3 to 4 hour I the tri state. Area. I can’t keep up with my bills

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    GHEORGHE PANTIRU

    • 1/12/2018 6:40:08 AM

    I've got 2 let's for both of my units. None of one works. . Wrong location. I will close down the business if they go forward with this led. They should train brokers,shippers and receiver first.. so many problems....

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    Jeff

    • 1/12/2018 6:41:45 AM

    I bought an ELD before the mandate. I've been using it and it's TOUGH to get used to. I guess you could say I used to violate HOS probably a lot more than I even realized and now there's no denying it. I don't know about anyone else, but for me there are times when I have no choice but to violate. The customer wants their freight and they don't care about me or my hours. So far, nobody's asked me for my logs and let's hope it stays that way.

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    Tony

    • 1/12/2018 6:41:46 AM

    Eld does not helps my business because sitting in traffic. For 3 to 4 hour I the tri state. Area. I can’t keep up with my bills

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    Flor

    • 1/12/2018 6:43:18 AM

    Yes This mandate has affected my business to no driver. Have read that many old time drivers are quitting Owner has to drive truck on the weekend to not have truck parked. Trying to decide on calling it quits. Loss of money when you don’t have older people wanting to drive and newer drivers are either not accepted by insurance or if they accept them your insurance rate almost doubles.

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    Flor

    • 1/12/2018 6:43:19 AM

    Yes This mandate has affected my business to no driver. Have read that many old time drivers are quitting Owner has to drive truck on the weekend to not have truck parked. Trying to decide on calling it quits. Loss of money when you don’t have older people wanting to drive and newer drivers are either not accepted by insurance or if they accept them your insurance rate almost doubles.

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    Kelly Napier

    • 1/12/2018 6:43:38 AM

    Hello, My name is Kelly Napier. I work for AZ Logistics LLC out of Medina OH. We are a small company with less than 20 trucks, primarily composed of Owner Operators. We have installed Teletrac Navman ELD units in our trucks. We have had nothing but problems with the whole process. Any time we call for technical assistance, our problem is noted but never fixed. It has cost our company uncountable hours of time and money, and it's still not right. Who knows when the bugs will be worked out. We are paying for a service that is not being provided and with such a small company, the cost of the ELD service really hits us hard ($10,000 plus a year). We have a good safety score and have always respected the HOS rules. I do support the ELD mandate for new drivers, to help them learn the ropes and respect the HOS laws. I also support it for very large company fleets who can greatly benefit from the record keeping the ELD service can provide to them, as well as fleet maintenance and monitoring. I don't think it is necessary for the smaller guys however. The cost and frustration of the unreliable ELD unit are reasons enough in my book to consider giving smaller companies and/or owner operators a choice. The unfortunate thing is that will all the ELD providers we researched prior to picking one, there is either a steep up front cost or the commitment of a 2-3 year contract. I think it would be worth paying to get out of the contract myself vs keeping them in the trucks, if small companies can be exempted. Thank you for taking the time to listen!

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    Dwayne Brensinger

    • 1/12/2018 6:43:51 AM

    It has really hurt me.They are quitting. The shippers are not helping in any way to give more to the drivers beings what we do is taking an extra two to three days to get empty and the shippers is not giving any extra for the extra days to get the freight off so the drivers can not get paid any more. They are going to work for doing something else

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    Tony Riffe

    • 1/12/2018 6:44:47 AM

    The missed appointments that carriers with the "elds" have missed both on the shipping & receiving end have helped my bottom line.

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    Shari

    • 1/12/2018 6:50:31 AM

    Speaking as a dispatcher of an owner-operator, the new ELD's are a royal pain. My driver/owner is adjusting to the new ELD's but it's not easy. It's adding stress to every aspect of his business. We stress more on loading/unloading times. Appointments are a joke...hardly any shipper or receiver adhere to those times. So we end up sitting while time keeps ticking away off the drive time. He use to get up early to drive, but now the log dictates when he's going to move. He's tired and stressed. When he was doing paper logs he had no issues. He has a clean record and good safety scores. It sucks when traffic is bad or the weather is awful that he can't get off the road without affecting his logs. If it's time to drive...that's that. When it's time to stop he has to hope he can find a place to park. It's unfair to the drivers of small companies and owner/operators everywhere.

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    Alan j. Shea

    • 1/12/2018 6:51:59 AM

    Eld has made lunch a 1/2 hr. Mandatory and I've been late, lost loads , can't make a delivery as customers stop unloading at 2

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    Van Scott Transport

    • 1/12/2018 6:54:45 AM

    My truck is s 98 and exempt. I have my own authority running one truck. No law enforcement has asked to see anything. I do have prepass with a good safety record though. Insurance has not asked or required it. Brokers have not asked or required it. Shippers have not asked or required it.

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    Tess

    • 1/12/2018 6:55:39 AM

    After I install ELD it has affected my health I’m gaining weight @ a faster pace due to Long hours driving Less activity Fast food ( to save my time) Stress Arguing with shipping & Recieving when they hold me too long On the others side ELD eliminates all the paperwork issues just press one button

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    Jean

    • 1/12/2018 6:56:32 AM

    Not ELD are driver friendly. Driver tries to call technical support, leave a phone number and message, maybe they will call, maybe they wont. In the meantime, the driver still does not have his questions answered. The receivers are having issues of the loads not being delivered on time, which results complaints filed to the shipper and then it rolls down hill. Some owner/operators have parked their trucks because of this mandate, the feeling is that they cannot be trusted to record their time within the limits of the law plus the accidents that have happened involving trucks, not all of these should reflect on the seasoned drivers that obey the laws.

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    Harleychik

    • 1/12/2018 6:56:46 AM

    Have Big Road elds... Nothing but glitches, and customer service overloaded and too hard to get hold of.. Driving tired all the time with elogs, you CANNOT manage your time trucking with an electronic device!! Politicians need to get that through their heads before too many people get killed from tired elog drivers.. And NO, not one soul has asked to see our elogs, not one soul has asked if we run elogs.. and shippers and receivers still don't give one care about how much of our time they waste.. Total and utter waste of money...........

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    Jose luis moreno

    • 1/12/2018 6:57:24 AM

    I hv 2016 kw. I must do 4 trips a month to make it w payments and w this new regulations i think i hv to take truck to dealer.

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    L Saylor

    • 1/12/2018 6:59:12 AM

    Sold my truck, started working for a company that hauls mobile homes which we can’t haul after dark anyway. Now our one day work day turns into 2 days to get one hauled sometimes. Most definitely losing money day by day. Worst thing ever to hit the trucking industry.

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    Paul ramos

    • 1/12/2018 7:00:33 AM

    This eld is already causing kaos not enough hrs

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    Jamie Anderson

    • 1/12/2018 7:02:05 AM

    Got On Command E Logs. They are not working at all. Used them 1 1/2 days back on December 18th. Haven't been working other than that. I spent $600.00 for nothing. Now I must replace with something else that more than likely will not work. I'd like to thank the government and Navastar. ELD is a joke. We are all having issues with the E Logs. They need to replace the law go back to the way it was.

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    Tim smit

    • 1/12/2018 7:02:13 AM

    I have had brokers ask me if I was Eld Compliant and some would not load me unless I had a Eld And I was inspected by Missouri they wrote it on the inspection report that I was not Eld compliant

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    Sue Drechsel

    • 1/12/2018 7:04:24 AM

    this ELD pushes me to drive when I feel tired. Can't find any parking at nights. an the shippers don't care if they make me sit for 4 hrs waiting on them to load my trailer. This devise is no good an it causes so many more problems. .

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    Lyle Messinger

    • 1/12/2018 7:04:43 AM

    As a Owner Op ...I feel that The ELD is going to cost me time and money ! #1. Shippers and Receivers don't have a clue and are unaware of what us drivers are up against. #2. There should be penalties set to these shippers and receivers for holding us up ... #3. I do think that the shipping rates should be increased mandatory by the Government by 10-20 %

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    Russell Galvin

    • 1/12/2018 7:04:44 AM

    Make things very unsafe brokers don't understand h o s rules shippers and receivers don't care and u end up driving tired and most times hungry even if u know how to plan your day needs to be thrown out or make exceptions for carriers with good safety records .

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    Brian Taylor

    • 1/12/2018 7:09:37 AM

    Inspections have been deeper. Troopers may be pulling trucks over while on the road as opposed to checking at scales.

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    Alibet Fumero

    • 1/12/2018 7:10:05 AM

    The most problem with my truck it was the delays in shippers and receiving,they take their time even my eld is running,is like is not their business ot doesn’t matter,other big problem is the parking,yesterday in Tulsa,OK in Flying J they doesn’t has parking spots,I need take a shower,eat and sleep and one woman with bad manner told me I can park behind Mc donalds as I am a Mc Donalds customer,no I buy your diesel,I use all your service I’m your client,customer so even is true they doesn’t has parking I need park so I should leave because she want to call the police and tow away,they speak to us (drivers) like enemy or delinquents,please America,Mr President awake we move America why all this regulations with us,the small cars cause more accidents with the phone and cut off the 18 wheeler than us

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    Carolyn Miller

    • 1/12/2018 7:10:06 AM

    It has severely hurt my business and fed up with this overreach of government! Rather than adding madness to the existing mess, they should end ELD mandate and focus on fixing the mess already there... current hours of service rule, better training within mega companies, better training with fair consistent enforcement within the field by officers, Pay for all financial damages down to trucker’s equipment due to this overreach mandate AND most importantly prices more SAFER rest areas for truckers to take 10 hour breaks with restrooms, water, food, showers, and security! This mandate is costing more lives than they claimed it would save!

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    Eddie Assali

    • 1/12/2018 7:14:57 AM

    It’s been so frustrating especially when we spend more time at the shipper or receiver more than driving Due to that We have to shut down Sometimes before we do any driving

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    Chad finneman

    • 1/12/2018 7:16:22 AM

    Bought the one 20 f eld the thing will not pair or even work, purchased 2 rand McNally eld 50s and neither one of them works and I cannot get any support to fix the problems, elds are not going to work on some of these 7 8 9 year old trucks period

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    James Estes

    • 1/12/2018 7:17:28 AM

    I took off from Dec. 22-Jan 2nd. On December 22nd, in California, roadside inspections and inspections at the scale house for ELD's, $700 fines being doled out. Put in Roadlog have had nothing but trouble since. Losing $1,100 a week because of lost loads. Rates are down here in California and less loads. Everyone is stressed! I have one truck and 3 trailers. Never thought in 40 years of driving would it come down to this.

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    DALE

    • 1/12/2018 7:18:04 AM

    We have not lost any drivers yet, but many are frustrated with the Elds giving them error messages. Also, they have had to increase their speed now to make sure they get their miles in asap each day. Waiting at shippers and receivers has also been a problem. Shipper loaded us late, receiver would not move appointment a couple hours so we could still make delivery day originally scheduled. Therefore driver lost a full day for less than 2 hours. Another driver had similar situation. Receiver took too long to unload, arrived at next shipper @ 245 PM and they said they close at 3 come back tomorrow. Driver drove all of 21 minutes that day. Need to adjust the 14 hour rule and 10 hour break to allow drivers to do their work. Also, need better accuracy on the ELD's. With the 2 brands of ELDS we tried Sometimes locations are off by over 30 miles.

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    Kenton Shillingford

    • 1/12/2018 7:20:04 AM

    I lost all my drivers .4 of them they keep waiting to be loaded or unloaded then ran out of hours ..can't make it to the next pick up, or missing appointment..I missed a Tuesday appointment now I am stuck with the load until next Tuesday..the last driver on that load quite , so now i have to find my way to go pick up my equipment and go do thr delivery myself.. The hours of service need to be overhaul..

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    Karl

    • 1/12/2018 7:24:47 AM

    I just spent 13 hrs of my 14 day sitting getting unloaded and loaded. Can't make money driving 1 hr a day. If shippers and receivers don't straighten out in the food produce business we will all be out of business.

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    Kendal Oakleaf

    • 1/12/2018 7:29:39 AM

    The ELD has tremendously had a negitive impact on my business I am a Intrastate Carrier 300 mile radius. I will more than likely be closing up shop within 90 days placing a tremendous burden on 7 family’s that depend on me for a pay check. Thank you to the United States Federal Government girl ruining more and more people’s lives everyday.

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    John Villers

    • 1/12/2018 7:34:21 AM

    Definitely hurting me and making roads more dangerous. I can't stop when I want or drive when I want hurting me on pick up and delivery and finding a place to stop for the 10hr break. The eld sucks beyond belief. Also making me late for aooointments

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    Matt

    • 1/12/2018 7:36:56 AM

    DOT do not seem to be enforcing the mandate right now. We have 4 trucks all Volvo’s. We have been experiencing electrical glitches, including brake lights and turn signals not working, air bag warnings, low air alarms while driving (tanks all had 120psi) idle shutdown (while driving). I told all drivers to disconnect and run paper. CAL Dot did inspection and did not cite or warn us. Driver inspected before our driver in Cal (Banning) scale was way over hours (driving for 15 hours) and did not take a break (and he was on paper only) they gave him a warning and made him sit for 10 hours. Could have been a $1500 fine. Looking at buying 4 older non ELD non egr non def trucks. Got a line on 4 w900s with N14s and 60 series. I figure that I will be ahead when it comes to emission repair costs, no def, no eld costs. We will see.

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    John Anderson

    • 1/12/2018 7:41:31 AM

    With my company all of our drivers have ran elogs in the past for various other carriers, so when we made the switch to e-logs it was not a big impact on our business but we have noticed some changes with the e-logs like when we got stuck at a shipper too long to make it down to one of our next loads we had to reschedule that load for the next morning. one thing I have noticed that has actually benefited us is we can go after detention pay so much easier now because now we have electronic proof of when we were there and when we left the shippers and receivers. so overall I would say they've been more of a benefit than a hindrance for our business.

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    Larry Townes

    • 1/12/2018 7:48:31 AM

    E L D is not for small company. It design to put the small business out business .

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    Dwayne

    • 1/12/2018 7:49:33 AM

    I run "multiple loads in a day" style short haul for the most part but do get occasional loads longer. BUT ! The air mile radius of a lot of my loads is just outside the 100 air mile mark, and I have a 2000 model truck with a 2000 year manufactured engine so I was forced to the ELD. It costs me a load per day at an average of $300 per load. So you do the math, saying 2 weeks off for yearly vacations, another 2 weeks for lost time shop time on the truck, that's 48 working weeks left. 48 x $1500($300 loss per day, 5 day work week)= $72,000 loss ! And other than a slight reduction in fuel costs, all other truck operating expense remain nearly the same. Bottom line, very little profit. I have 39 years in June, I WON'T have 40 !! I won't truck very long with a profit robbing "digital babysitter" !

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    Jean Luc

    • 1/12/2018 7:53:12 AM

    There was a snow storm in Washington state on January 4th i was in Waterville, WA due slow driving my 14hrs ended no truck stop and rest area around. Just to be safe i drove to the Chelan,WA where i was going to pickup Saturday the 5th it’s a 2 way road no place to park. Got to Billings, MT Sunday night an officer cited me for 14hrs rule. He told me it doesn’t matter i should have stop in Waterville,even i told him there was no place to park. The worst thing he googled him self he found no truck stop ,still cited me.

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    AngryTRUCKER

    • 1/12/2018 7:55:10 AM

    ELDs are bad for business. Shipper has no rules, receiver has no rules, an brokers have no rules??? The keep you in the door for hours. An you have to FIGHT for detention pay. I drove to a load that broker said needed 2 straps. Got there I was told by shipper must have 5... wasted 2 hrs on eld an didn't get that load. Booked another load drove there and waited 30 minutes and was told load cancelled. Wasted another hour. Broker refused to pay no truck use fee. Booked another load drove there an finally I'm getting loaded and now the day is ruined your HOS are wasted not due to the driver but by all the people who do NOT have any rules or guidelines..... Broker, shipper, and receiver It's hard out here to maintain the truck expenses, rates have went up but not everywhere. Truck expenses are still the same. Everywhere! Rules have to apply to BROKER SHIPPER AND RECEIVER

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    Barry millious

    • 1/12/2018 7:56:07 AM

    I think it is unconstitutional I haven't worked my truck sense it went into effect

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    Steve

    • 1/12/2018 8:11:34 AM

    I think they’re great I’m doing less and charging more. People are upset with ELDs and parking their trucks and getting out of the business ,this means more freight for me !! Thanks FMCSA pass some more laws that will increase my profit With the economy on the upswing and the number of available trucks going down it’s like Christmas 365 days a year !!!!

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    Robert Phillips

    • 1/12/2018 8:13:32 AM

    I won't lie, sometimes you need an extra 15 - 30mims to get the job done and keep the Customer happy. ELD's do not allow for this. The FMCSA is a bunch of regulatory happy Idiots....

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    Pacific Refrigerated Services Inc

    • 1/12/2018 8:24:17 AM

    We are an LTL trucking company. Our main commodity is food product. LTL and ELD DO NOT go together. We spend a LOT of time waiting at warehouses and it eats up our driving time. Oil field companies got a waiting line added to their logs, why can't LTL companies get the same? It seems that if you have a large lobbyist group, special interest group or some congressperson in your corner you can get exemptions. Why is an exemption given to ANY truck? Aren't they all metal and rubber with a driver? If ONE truck gets an exemption, then ALL trucks should be given the SAME EXEMPTION!

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    John Carter

    • 1/12/2018 8:28:36 AM

    I am a 1-truck carrier, so I am both driver and fleet operator. I chose the Transflo T7 (which is really the GeoTab GO7) and went with the direct GeoTab plan. I chose the device because it has been extensively field tested in several segments of the transportation industry, and has been around a while. So far, I have had no problems with the unit itself and -- being very tech-savvy myself -- was able to set it up easily. As for anyone requiring that I be ELD-compliant -- only Landstar has asked if I was, and they did not make it a requirement for booking loads. Other than that, I have seen little to no change in my operation with the ELD.

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    Enes

    • 1/12/2018 8:53:19 AM

    3 day ego I’m driving only 50miles because I’m watching the finding load going to pick up on pick up whitening 5.5 hours time is going go to sleep. I’m can not slip but when getting hours is midnight and hard driving to get appointments to next day and ELD give me too selling truck and finding same other jobs not driving

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    Enes

    • 1/12/2018 8:59:10 AM

    3 day ego I’m driving only 50miles because I’m watching the finding load going to pick up on pick up whitening 5.5 hours time is going go to sleep. I’m can not slip but when getting hours is midnight and hard driving to get appointments to next day and ELD give me too selling truck and finding same other jobs not driving

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    Edward Liefke

    • 1/12/2018 9:02:47 AM

    When elog requirements took effect,my fuel company discontinued promiles + fuel tax online. This caused increase cost of $35 a month plus I still had to pay $365 a year for eld. What benefit is that?

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    Eld

    • 1/12/2018 9:04:44 AM

    Eld will cause more accidents! Drivers who does long haul will understand what Iam talking about! And why in the world would shippers and brokers want you to have ELD and deliver their freight 2 days later??? Dat, you are asking nonsence questions! You start your day at 6a.m. your 11 hours drive time is up and gone around 4 p.m.? You go try get your sleep and somply cant fall asleep untill 10pm. Your alarm beeps at 2 a.m. to get up and drive! You only had 4 hours of sleep! ELD SAFETY??? MY A..! Another one, you at detroit market, unloaded, your time is up, you are in the gang and shooting area, do you wanna take your chances wished you wouldnt get shot and go try to get your sleep? Or drive for 15 miles without log book but save your life/equipment/freight? SAFETY? REALLY? I know what Iam talking about people, been there. In a truck since 1997! Wish who ever come up with this law pull hers/his behind from an office chair and put it in a long haul truck for few years at least then she would have a better picture how it works! Bottom line is, I put my rates at a highest nowdays, and Iam not the only one, it will raise prices in stores , it will hurt economy, people will start bringing trucks back to dealers lots for that they coulnt afford hauling less freight and paying for this new trucks. Just wait and see what eld will do to this country! Soon shelves in stores will parshially get empty!

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    Matt

    • 1/12/2018 9:12:07 AM

    Owner operator .my eld did not work thy send me replacement.now cant open my server.Im slowing down practicly to 0 loads in past 3 weeks.timing the loads is complete disaster.plus the rates went down.i guess owner operators and small fleets will be out of game in 1 year if thy push this regulation.

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    Scott s

    • 1/12/2018 9:14:49 AM

    Elds have cased major issues, freight prices for trks with ELDS are lower than non ELD trks. My fuel mpg has gone down as soon as I installed the ELD in my trk. Previously I was getting 6.8 to 7.3 mpg now it on avg is barely 5.3 and I only haul lite loads under 25k. Not to mention the ELD co has lost my data 2xs now. I use VDO road log. There's data transfer issues to say the least. If ur data is lost they ( tell u to go by memory...riiight) nd do a paper log...that's not legal. Paper logs is factual can't be lost in transfer etc. And is acurate to the actual CITY u are in. Not at GPS location set to the nearest highest population. I heard and seen some trks actually shutting down at the expiration of the 14 hr rule. VDO told me when using the "EXCEPTIONS rule" there is no time limit which is B'S. FMCSA should of done better...1st time my trk fails because of the ELD or other ELD related issue I will be suing the GOV. They forced the ELD mandate without having a fire proof way of putting ELD in rigs that isn't susceptible to DOT issues or crashes...elds have no evidence of preventing crashes etc. If so then the major companies would have a perfect record.

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    Gearjamn

    • 1/12/2018 9:15:44 AM

    Well we sold off a truck for a substantial loss and have more going up for sale ...I let ALL the drivers go ... I am NOT and WILL NOT comply with ELD as a matter of FREEDOM from Tyrannical government over reach......We are NOT robots we are people born FREE and free to pursue our lively hoods with out undue burden and constraints put forth by the government and unconstitutional regulations. This is NO different than being FORCED into the Health care BS of the Obama era and NOT being able to choose for ourselves what it right for us as people. ELDs are about MONEY in these congressmen s pockets who bought stock in Quailcom and putting small businesses out of business PERIOD from the lobbyists paying off these corrupt individuals as well as the DOT being able to monitor and audit you as you drive looking for any infraction that can lead to a fine and money for them!! There is NO reason a small trucking company needs ELDS ...we did paper , printed our own logs , scanned them and sent back to the home terminal through e-mail cost 1 truck for 3 years about $8.00 in paper and ink the logs are 2 to a page ...simple easy .......500 sheets of paper , 1000 days of logging ...email FREE !! Store logs on file at the home terminal on a disk and print if needed in a DOT inspection ......all legal and CHEAP !! Paper has been just fine since the inception of logging...so there is NO reason it is not fine now !! The majority of AT FAULT BIG TRUCK accidents are caused by the BIG companies that implemented ELDs early on ,usually as a plea deal with the DOT to forego fines and penalties ......some even having to give the DOT an office in thier headquarters as part of the plea deal .... ELDs are not right for everyone and we should have a choice ...if they are good for you then I give you a pat on the back ....I did them for years and I did not like them so I started my own company in 2010 so I could run it the way I wanted too and in compliance with the DOT regs . Being independent is about FREEDOM to work as you see fit and do what you please within the constraints of the law....... Just because someone does not like or want ELDs does not mean the are running illegal .... it is about the FREEDOM of choice and the basic FREEDOMS afforded us in the Constitution of These Untied States ..... the only thing one can do is PARK THE TRUCKS !! Fight these laws by STOPPING freight movement until changes are made , I do not like being treated as a criminal when I do my job ..... But then I am just shouting about that making my voice hoarse ......my voice carried off in the wind as no one listens and it falls on deaf ears .....or ears that are too afraid to stand up for thier beliefs to make changes ...no wonder America has fallen as it has and the corruption has taken over... we have let it happen due to inaction's

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    Matthew Burns

    • 1/12/2018 9:18:23 AM

    Well we sold off a truck for a substantial loss and have more going up for sale ...I let ALL the drivers go ... I am NOT and WILL NOT comply with ELD as a matter of FREEDOM from Tyrannical government over reach......We are NOT robots we are people born FREE and free to pursue our lively hoods with out undue burden and constraints put forth by the government and unconstitutional regulations. This is NO different than being FORCED into the Health care BS of the Obama era and NOT being able to choose for ourselves what it right for us as people. ELDs are about MONEY in these congressmen s pockets who bought stock in Quailcom and putting small businesses out of business PERIOD from the lobbyists paying off these corrupt individuals as well as the DOT being able to monitor and audit you as you drive looking for any infraction that can lead to a fine and money for them!! There is NO reason a small trucking company needs ELDS ...we did paper , printed our own logs , scanned them and sent back to the home terminal through e-mail cost 1 truck for 3 years about $8.00 in paper and ink the logs are 2 to a page ...simple easy .......500 sheets of paper , 1000 days of logging ...email FREE !! Store logs on file at the home terminal on a disk and print if needed in a DOT inspection ......all legal and CHEAP !! Paper has been just fine since the inception of logging...so there is NO reason it is not fine now !! The majority of AT FAULT BIG TRUCK accidents are caused by the BIG companies that implemented ELDs early on ,usually as a plea deal with the DOT to forego fines and penalties ......some even having to give the DOT an office in thier headquarters as part of the plea deal .... ELDs are not right for everyone and we should have a choice ...if they are good for you then I give you a pat on the back ....I did them for years and I did not like them so I started my own company in 2010 so I could run it the way I wanted too and in compliance with the DOT regs . Being independent is about FREEDOM to work as you see fit and do what you please within the constraints of the law....... Just because someone does not like or want ELDs does not mean the are running illegal .... it is about the FREEDOM of choice and the basic FREEDOMS afforded us in the Constitution of These Untied States ..... the only thing one can do is PARK THE TRUCKS !! Fight these laws by STOPPING freight movement until changes are made , I do not like being treated as a criminal when I do my job ..... But then I am just shouting about that making my voice hoarse ......my voice carried off in the wind as no one listens and it falls on deaf ears .....or ears that are too afraid to stand up for thier beliefs to make changes ...no wonder America has fallen as it has and the corruption has taken over... we have let it happen due to inaction

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    Phillip

    • 1/12/2018 9:34:52 AM

    Missing loads getting home day late it's been a problem since I installed it someday I only get 4 hrs drive time and most days we are alot cause of that reason not being able to get to your next load I think the truckers ought to strike for at least a week it would cripple this country and the truckers would get there way but everybody thinks they will go broke if they shut down for a week well guess what there going broke anyways with this eld it's unfair to all get together truckers and do something about it I'm ready for a change

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    Lorelei

    • 1/12/2018 9:51:31 AM

    We have our ELD s installed. They are bad in so many ways. The drivers call in with problems that they are not working properly so we have spent needless hours on the phone trying to get them to work properly. They are a waist of time and they are unsafe for my drivers. Every one of my drivers has complained about being tired, they are a distraction, drivers complain they don't know what day it is as they don't write it anymore, it takes away from their since of responsibility. It forces the drivers to drive when they are tired to get their miles in, It forces the drivers to drive in rush hour traffic which is beyond dangerous, it forces drivers to stop early to have a place to park before their clock runs out. Drivers are now taking around 2 more days to deliver from paper logs which in return makes a loss of revenue for me and my drivers. Not one of my drivers like them and I am having a hard time hiring a driver for an empty truck because nobody wants to be controlled by the government ELD. Lets get rid of the ELD and Make America Great Again.

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    LARRY WILSON

    • 1/12/2018 9:59:29 AM

    Elds has cost me money and time. It has me in places that i am not in usually 100 miles away from where I am at. I donot have time complete my usually day i can only go and back. I run 250 miles out.

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    Greg Watkins

    • 1/12/2018 10:06:02 AM

    No, I didn’t buy ELD before mandate. No, not waiting on equipment. No they haven’t. No. No citation. No. No. You want to know everyone’s opinion? Mine is if you make something mandatory, the crooks will come out of the woodwork. If you didn’t research all the different products very closely, you’re stuck in a contract and have an automatic monthly draft from your account. And if you go over 1 MB of service, you will pay like $8.00 per MB overage.(that’s not GB, that’s MB!!) Or like me, stuck with a product that doesn’t work and they are selling your info. I only work with reputable companies. Now the phone rings day and night with brokers with no history or credit rating! Dispatchers offering services for 20% of the gross! They call and say “ I can see you are in Atlanta, do you want a load?” My reply is “how can you see my location?” They won’t answer the question. Unplug the device and they can’t see your location but still call! I’m parked, that’s right, downtime! The unit shows HOS violation after driving 6.06 hours. Money thrown away and money lost to downtime. The government mandated the rule, mandate the sell of logging devices and services. Put a stop to their fleecing the truckers.

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    STOP THE ELD

    • 1/12/2018 10:18:07 AM

    There is not one thing safe about the ELD. There has been numerous problems with them. The paper logs didn't have a line for yard movement or personal conveyance therefore my drivers have had to learn when and how to use these 2 lines and pray it doesn't automatically put you on to driving because then you are in violation. The ELD forces drivers to drive when they are tired to try to make miles /money, They force drivers to drive in rush hour traffic, they force drivers to stop early to have a place to park. My drivers complain about being tired and not being able to make any miles. it is taking 2 days longer to make a trip which lowers both mine and my drivers pay. I have not been able to hire a driver as nobody wants to work with the government control of the ELD. The is nothing NOTHING safe about the ELD. We need to remember that the ELD Mandate was started by the democratic government from the past and as so many other government control laws this one also needs to be stopped and put to rest. STOP THE ELD TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

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    RG Bryant Trucking

    • 1/12/2018 10:22:55 AM

    We are 1 truck O/O OTR. Agree with what almost everyone is saying, I drive tired just to make it. Keeptruckin ELD is working for me no problems as far as an ELD goes. Tried Simple Truck and Transflo 7 first and both did not work, not accurate. Since I have to wear the ankle bracelet it may as well be a comfortable one so my hands are tied, ankles are shackled and Keeptruckin is the prison of my choice. I pray someone can get this reversed forever not just a few years. We were 40 miles from drop off had to do a 30 minute break only 4 hour's left still have to untarp, unload then drive 160 miles to reload, tarp and find a place to park. We have already had bad traffic, had to fuel, stuck in fuel line ect. Y'all know. We can't afford to quit just got new motor and new flatbed. Good luck every one.

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    Steven paige

    • 1/12/2018 10:28:40 AM

    I drove for 20 years and 9 mos. with over 2 million miles. Never had an accident, cargo claim, or logbook violation. I decided I don’t want to be out longer for the same money and I’m an old dog that don’t want to learn a new trick. So I sold my truck and trailer, hung my hat and went to work for one of my customers working in a plant as a shop technition. Let the idiots that make these laws haul it themselves

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    Hans Witt

    • 1/12/2018 10:43:42 AM

    BLUE BIT ELD , will not allow driver make changes, will not allow administrator make changes, will not show code when not communicating with engine. Will not sub tract the " 100 radius time off the 70/8 after 34 hour. Had to switch to paper logs. App log driver in for 14.55 line 3 yesterday, with out being in the truck- called and reported to Montana FMCSA. Administrative notes on saved logs are disappearing if they have references to Blue Bit! reported that to fmsca to. Blue Bit customer service doses not realize how serious this.

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    arlene

    • 1/12/2018 10:58:26 AM

    The EDS's should not apply to everyone only the companies with bad driving scores. It has taken a toll on my small trucking business. Further more the shipper & receiving docks should move a faster it' as if they don't care and the drivers are suffering. Their need to be some kind of change to this system. I'm not saying make the ELD's more user friendly

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    Dooley

    • 1/12/2018 11:18:58 AM

    It has convinced me even further to buy pre 1999 trucks, the biggest problem I have had is with the Phone Apps controlling the ELD sometimes when you select off it keeps you on and will run off your time anyway.

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    Ed

    • 1/12/2018 11:22:10 AM

    From O/O side, definitely not good. NOT SAFE, NOT HEALTHY FOR DRIVERS, NOT COST EFFECTIVE. Pick up & delivery time frame still the same as before ELD mandate. Much worst loading time for Mexico border loads. To compensate for lost loading / unloading time, drivers has to drive fast so it's not safe, more fuel consumption & vehicle wear & tear. Drivers more stressed out & more caffeine to be alert. Because delivery at off duty time & trip to parking always trigger an HoS violation, DoT must fine tune it. Eld is good only for big companies coz they have multiple trailers to drop off / hook up. This system is designed to wipe out small truck owners. Thanks DoT, your crystal ball not accurate again.

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    TK Gray

    • 1/12/2018 11:37:11 AM

    I’m an o/o with this one truck. Started with the keep Truckin , it wouldn’t work and could not get support to pick up the phone. Changed to One 20. It’s working but has issues. Still can’t get any support. Causing me way more stress and having to really rush to get to shippers and receivers to beat the clock. This is a ridiculous law that is going to take lives. We don’t need this chaos in our business. Shippers don’t care if we have elds, they just want trucks. Shippers and receivers should have some skin in this game. That might change the narrative if they complained to fmsca. I will be looking for another line of work soon as winter goes away

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    TK Gray

    • 1/12/2018 11:37:14 AM

    I’m an o/o with this one truck. Started with the keep Truckin , it wouldn’t work and could not get support to pick up the phone. Changed to One 20. It’s working but has issues. Still can’t get any support. Causing me way more stress and having to really rush to get to shippers and receivers to beat the clock. This is a ridiculous law that is going to take lives. We don’t need this chaos in our business. Shippers don’t care if we have elds, they just want trucks. Shippers and receivers should have some skin in this game. That might change the narrative if they complained to fmsca. I will be looking for another line of work soon as winter goes away

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    Michelle

    • 1/12/2018 11:46:51 AM

    I feel it is to soon to tell , what will happen. HOS is still a problem that needs to be fixed. The stress of time is not good for drivers.

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    VAL S

    • 1/12/2018 12:01:34 PM

    Shippers definitely having trouble shipping the parcel trait I received numerous calls this week that the customer posting his parcel for more than a week and nobody wants to pick it up because the drivers are counting your time before they pick up the load if it's kind of set him off for another 34 restart in this trip they don't want to go and pick up the parcel they just want to run half trailer empty they want to go home and they're responding is either I'm going home or I quit we losing at least 4-to$5000 a week if you count for year it's a lot of money to lose the trucking business is going down big-time

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    Jose godinez

    • 1/12/2018 12:41:39 PM

    We have way too many regulations now. Plus eld , which needs internet , and we don’t get internet all the time .

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    Jose godinez

    • 1/12/2018 12:41:41 PM

    We have way too many regulations now. Plus eld , which needs internet , and we don’t get internet all the time .

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    Fred

    • 1/12/2018 2:10:37 PM

    I have completely revamped my business model. I now only run loads within a 500 mile radius of home. Shipper and receivers that are slow will no longer be serviced by me at all. If there is a line waiting to be loaded is automatic cancellation of the load, no more delays. I have cut my trucking to four days per week freeing up time to pursue other interests. When the rates fall off, I won't run the truck at all untilthe rates come up again. I use Big Road logs, it works ok, but it doesn’t always start when i take off making a mess of my log day. I never had that problem with a paper log. The elogs combined with the lousy HOS rules have seriously dampened my enthusiasm for trucking. I think this is going to make the "driver shortage" a lot worse, but seriously, I don't think anything is going to done to fix the problems.

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    Jerry Cavazos

    • 1/12/2018 2:15:32 PM

    Eld's suck!!!

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    Philip Rollins PBR Trucking Inc

    • 1/12/2018 2:20:06 PM

    I have an older Peterbilt that runs terrific and I have been running east to West Coast on my refers for over 16 years. I had a regular route going from NC to LA and the coast, back to NC. My timing was perfect, and had my miles and stops down pat. I can't do that run with the new laws if I had to implement this change. So, I was forced to retire, close my business down and reduce my family's income tremendously. I'm 67 and was not ready to quit. This forced me out of business and into a decision of what to do with myself. My social security is not enough to live on. My wife and I are trying to figure how we can make it now. This law was not necessary.

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    Derek finkbeiner

    • 1/12/2018 3:51:43 PM

    5 mile radius is hogwash. It kicks in at 5 mph. Stuck in traffic good luck finding a parking spot. People are retiring left and right. Maybe when freight hits 10$ a mile they’ll listen.

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    Philip Rollins

    • 1/12/2018 6:02:58 PM

    I was an independent owner Operator until December 18 when the mandate took affect. The mandate does not make for a safer operation but instead adds more difficulty when doing the job . I believe you should drive when you feel rested and rest when you feel tired. Punching a clock does not allow this . I am no longer a truck driver.

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    Charles Schuh

    • 1/12/2018 7:04:21 PM

    We bought BIT welds, neither one works well. Got inspected in Wisconsin, they wanted to put me Los because he thought I was stopping every hour on the hour and logging in and out. Until he saw that it showed me driving at 3:30 pm that day and it was only 1: 30. Then he let me go. Said I had to do paper logs. Sending both units back, will try KT, I guess.

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    Mike Iordache

    • 1/12/2018 8:36:09 PM

    ELD cut in my driving time big time who made this happen sits in OFFICE and don't understand nothing about driving you sit in a traffic jam 2 hours then to catch up with your time you have to speed up which put you in danger is this about SAFTEY ???

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    Mike Iordache

    • 1/12/2018 8:45:57 PM

    Can you tell me who sleeps 10 hours a night maybe if I drink a bottle of whiskey yes ask those members in SENATE or CONGRESS how many hours they sleep a night ???

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    belkys

    • 1/13/2018 2:15:11 PM

    we currently have keeptrucking and so far been good the only problem is with the 34hour reset and that shipper and recievers are still taking there sweet time to load and unload and thats when a problem happend i currently have 4 units on eld

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    belkys

    • 1/13/2018 2:18:28 PM

    we currently have keeptracking for ur fleet so far is good the only hassel come that shipper and reciever take there sweet time to load and unload and also if there is a traffic jam u lose hours thats the other thing

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    Jeff

    • 1/14/2018 7:29:32 AM

    Going to use the "phase in" until april 1st, so far i ve been killing it on the spot market...if tye market stays where it is now come april i ll be a happy camper , if rates crash i ll park the truck...plain and simple, not gonna work and run my equipment into the ground for a buck a mile!!!!

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    Ronald

    • 1/14/2018 1:28:58 PM

    Since having ELD installed I have lost sleep due to stress. Stopping to early prior to delivery due to not having adequate time to unload. Loss of miles. Loss of loads. Loss of Revenue. Stress is up. Received my own authority in November. For me failure was never an option. Now everything is in question. If this ELD Mandate is to stick. The HOS needs to be addressed and changed!!!

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    JOE PEPE

    • 1/14/2018 8:32:05 PM

    ELD is a waste of time,,to much more work,is not good in all, not even working properly.is the biggest mistake for federal government.every body is in hurry up cause the freakin hours,not good

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    Burnell Rose

    • 1/15/2018 2:38:38 AM

    My ELD IS Rand McNally and for now it's a piece of garbage it's not working properly I have to be using paper log and I'm paying for the service because it keeps messing up think I might need a different company ELD but not sure if any other company is better

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    Jim

    • 1/15/2018 7:01:11 AM

    The ELD's are going to cost me my business. I'm owner operator with 1 truck. My loads have been cut in half and am only making half of what I was which barely pays my fuel. I had a small problem with my truck today and had to get it repaired. Very Costly. And I'll be lucky to get 1 load delivered today. So I'm starting out in the hole for the week. Can't keep doing this. I have a family to feed and Household bills to pay. I've been driving for over 40 years and haven't had a wreck. All my near misses have been from cars cutting me off and then bowing up in front of me. PLEASE do away with the ELD.

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    Daily ELD and HOS incompatibility with Truckets life

    • 1/16/2018 2:03:25 PM

    Left home on monday after weekends. Evening picup. Loaded, drove for a bit fueled up. Moved around at truckstop and my off duty was only 25 minutes, means no 30 min break. Keept going. Arrival time 2am. Being tired wanted to arrive as soon as possible and go to sleep. But no I have to do 30min break before I arrive. Means fighting fatigue for 30 more minutes which seems to last for ever. We are not slaves we are free people. Let us deside when we want to take a break, and when we don't. Is it safer for me to go to sleep early or to drive tired for 30 more minutes. I was falling asleep so badly. Punching my self in the face. Stopping meant going to sleep for 10hrs and missing appointment. Don't remember ever driving so tired on paper log. On paper log I could go to sleep for 6hrs and still perfectly make it to my delivery appointment , never feeling tired while driving. Where is safety here? I'm legal but keep driving off the road, waking up almost on a grass. Or I'm illegal but rested, driving nice and straight. Something needs to be changed. Current rules are not made for safety. We cheated on paper logs not because we wanted to make all the money. But because it was safer to cheat. Driver is a Capitan of his truck. And he knows best when he needs to take a break, when he needs to sleep and when to wake up. Where is safety if logbook tells me I can drive but I'm tired? Where is wisdom if logbook tells me to go to sleep but I can't fall asleep yet? Why waste this time? Than where is safety when logbook tells me it's time to wakeup and go but I just finally fell asleep only 2hrs ago? It's not safety, it's slavery. Much stress and endangerment of truckers life and life's of people around him.

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    Ronald

    • 1/21/2018 6:03:00 AM

    My weekly round trip went from 2 loads out and back plus 2 day off, to 1 . 5 loads a week an a 34 hr. Brake at each end. I’m losing $1,500.00 per 7 day with this new mandate. Shippers and reseaver are not helping, By having move flexibility with appointments.....cant set and wait for appointment, my 14 will end, cant show up on time after driving half a day, my 14 will end at shipper/ reseaver. Some customers won’t let me check in with out showing them my logs showing I have the hours to load or unload. This is our fault my fellow truck drivers, all the compliant I’m hearing I was hearing before the mandate.......and I’m hearing now, We should have put a stop to it before it got to far.,WE DID NOTHING TO PROVENT THIS!!! We let are self’s down,

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    Eric M Tisder Sr

    • 1/22/2018 10:05:30 AM

    Yes the ELD has hurt me personally and financially. I am unable to get home sometimes bc of the hours requirement and there has been an issue with acquiring loads everyday. And getting to a truck stop bc I have to pickup later

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    Robert

    • 1/22/2018 4:15:45 PM

    It's a real shame when you can't even move a truck around your own lot to switch trailers or clean out the cab without logging in so the government knows what your doing ever second of your life. What happened to the land of the free? It's costing me more in labor when we have to take additional drivers to meet a truck on the road because he is a few minutes away and can't get home. I find myself driving faster now (running against the clock) to make sure I reach my destination before time is up, NOW HOW SAFE IS THAT? This whole deal was thought up by someone on a big trucking company board of directors to run small companies out of business so they can have it all

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    Rebecca

    • 1/23/2018 2:55:27 AM

    I have the Keller Encompass. I just got an email from them the are have issues with it working correctly???? I paid almost 500 plus monthly fee plus they wanted 300 for the manual that finally came down to 30. Now they're telling me to use a paper log until resolve.

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    Larry

    • 1/23/2018 11:34:33 AM

    We bought and installed a Road Log ELD on Dec 8,17. We could not get it to talk to our computer. We finally after a month of calling them, waiting on hold, waiting for days for call backs had a tech II call us yesterday and found out it will not work with my Apple laptop. They did not ask at the time we bought it what kind of computer we had. So, we will now be returning it, over 1000.00 including install and we are going with a different ELD that will work on our tablet through our phone. Much less money and will be leased, so if any problems, they will take care of it. ELD is nothing for safety but all about ELD companies getting rich!

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    Nikki

    • 3/12/2018 2:12:26 PM

    We are a small business and we have our own truck and only 2 drivers, one driver is only a backup. Our max miles per year is under 10,000 miles. The Furthest distance we ever travel is 500 miles in one day, once or twice a week for about a month or two. However, we are being mandated under the same laws as everyone else. For our small business, it's been a total pain, not to mention the cost. VDO Roadlog suggests maintaining our physical logs also, so now we are continuing to log our miles like how we used to and use the ELD in the process. Just added work.

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    Beth Jackson

    • 3/28/2018 10:43:25 AM

    Double dipping here, but finally received my ELD from Team Mobile, still on the waiting list for Blue Ink. T-Mobile set me up with the wrong software, and you have to drive 48 hours before you can use the system through the port, but they do not tell you that except in fine print, on the last line, in trouble shooting. I received my CDL Class A in the late 90's and everything I learned back then, went out the window with the ELD Mandate. I did local buses the last 10 years prior, so did not have to fool with log books. Big learning curve! In 1999, for tractor-trailers, you did not have to have a medical card, Haz-Mat was just another endorsement, and a CDL class A was considered a Bachelor's Degree, is some cases, depending on experience, a Master's; after all, we were "recognized as "Professional Drivers."" Log books were done in real time and 2nd log books were frowned upon as a log book showed you how to stay safe. Many times I came to the terminal hours early to do a through pre-trip and get any maintenance/work done. I had a long commute, so either the bunk house or the truck, for a nap, prior to going out, worked in my favor. Those days are gone, as safety is not the priority. My vehicle falls between a sprinter/hot shot without trailer and an Expediter, registered in the lines of a Recreational Vehicle (RV), like a large van or bus; no CDL required, under my name, not the company's. My road side service is for an RV, with commercial insurance. Today: I keep two log books. I do my paper log book the old way, and the ELD one in Virtual time. I still will do the pre-trip hours prior to going out but just don't log it until it's time to drive. On paper, it is 15 minutes, ELD it is 2 minutes tops. Not until I am loaded, everything is strapped down, do I record my ELD pre-trip, then go directly to the "Drive" line. "On Duty Not Driving" for ELD is ONLY for Pre-trip and Fuel/DEF Stops. Other than "Sleeper Berth," everything else goes under "Off Duty," except load boards, which is now Dispatch. When I am driving, unloaded, it is considered personal/RV time even DH, as whose to say visiting a company or going to the airport to get a tour (picking up freight) isn't sight seeing; if I am not getting paid, I am on my own time. I mark the drive time on my paper log as RV. The only time I am loaded that I do not mark it, is a "yard move." Example: I picked up a load at 3:30 PM and to be delivered at 8:00 AM the next day. It takes 8 hours to get there, not including traffic, mountains, weather, accidents, nature calls, food, rest, fuel.... This exceeds the 14 hour rule. So I take it, to it's final destination rather than hanging back at a rest area for the final 2 hours of the trip, last truck stop/rest area to Receiver. Everywhere is no parking signs, so I find two vehicles parked on the street together and park behind them; blocking one of two travel lanes until appointment time. If I mark the yard move for a block, I am in violation, and sitting there for seven and a half hours and miss my appointment time, when I am right there... If you can keep to a 40 hour work week and do sales in the process, you are ELD exempt. Sort of encourages prostitution (legal in some states) and your rolling pawn shop (hopefully not all stolen property), if not other border line/gray area, illicit, side occupations. Sprinters and Hot Shots without trailers are not likely to get caught since they are not subject to weigh stations but a BoL when pulled over in the officers view, could be a $30K fine if no MC#. One state, on it's books, states ALL vehicles, to go through, but really doesn't enforce it for passenger vehicles, while others are selective and some do not have weigh stations, but pull vehicles at random for road side checks. Some go by GVWR while others by current weight or GVW. Unfortunately there are not many loopholes for tractors trailers and bob tails. Courier companies and a few Freight Forwarders skirt the laws (including lack of MC#s) by declaring that they "maintain" or "over-see" a particular commodity, so they only find "Independent Contractors" to haul just tires, or medical. One Broker without an MC#, that has been around for 10 years, will hire contractors in other states to haul, letting the contractor/carrier take the risks, since they are not involved in interstate commerce in or out of their own state, per se.

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    Buddy

    • 3/29/2018 3:47:05 AM

    You CAN still cheat the ELD's somewhat. At least it works on the KeepTrucking ELD. The trick is, you can unplug the ELD from the box on the DASH then drive to where ever, BUT, you must return to about the same spot where you unplugged the ELD before you plug it back in. I go to Dollar General every week and take my 10 hour break. When I arrive, I log "off duty" then unplug from the box on the dash. Next morning, I can drive all around Dollar General at ten to fifteen mph to find my dock. When I get empty, I go back to about the same spot where I unplugged from the box and plug it back in. The ELD doesnt know I moved the truck. When I leave, the ELD shows "Driving". Same thing at my delivery in Sullivan, Mo. When I arrive, I log "Sleeper birth" then unplug the ELD. Sometimes they ask me to go to the other warehouse about 2 miles away. I drive to the other warehouse and unload then drive back to where I unplugged and finish my 10 hour break. Next morning, I plug back in and the ELD shows me still in the sleeper. When I take off, it shows me driving. REMEMBER: you MUST go back to about the same spot where you unplugged and your good to go. Give it a try next time your doing a 34 hour restart. Log, "sleeper birth" then unplug and drive down the road about a mile then go back and plug it back in. It WILL NOT show the drive time. ENJOY, my bruthas. There are other ways to hide your drive time but I wont post them here.

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    Ramiro Perez

    • 4/3/2018 6:51:17 AM

    My grandfather was 52. He’s been truck driving for 25 years. He’s had the eld for a short time. His last load he wasn’t feeling good and only slept about an hour at a time . He started to get worse and worse and sleep less . My grandfather passed away last night . And I don’t know much not sleeping added up to it . I just don’t want anybody else to lose somebody they love over an ELD

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    • 4/12/2018 8:12:41 PM

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    Brian R

    • 4/19/2018 1:49:43 PM

    I hate this eld. It causes me to drive when I’m tired, and causes me to sit at the truck stops. I cant see that the shippers or Recievers have changed any. When you haul chickens it’s sit all day and drive all night. It causes me to be gone from home longer, and I have no time to stop like I’m used to. I hate it and I don’t think after 28 years I need a box to tell me when to stop and go to bed. I will be finding a new career very soon.

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    Lyle Messinger

    • 4/20/2018 11:09:00 AM

    Here you go ! Spent the night at my next pick up point ... got my time completed in the sleeper... shippers asks me can you move your truck to another spot till we can get to you ... I said I cannot move my truck till your ready to load me ... he says why ... I had told him that once I move this truck my day starts ... and I know that your not getting to me for at least 3 hours or so till my appointment ... mind you ... I’m parked in a parking lot ... they don’t understand ! They don’t care and they certainly don’t give a poo about us ! I had to move for them ... and I lost a total of 4 hours and 3 minutes of my day ! ELD’s suck !

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    jeff

    • 4/23/2018 12:40:52 PM

    i wasnt aware that produce haulers had an exemption..

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    Edward Primeau III

    • 11/8/2018 7:54:29 AM

    Trucking for me with the mandated ELD has become more stressful. Shippers, Receivers, Construction, Accidents, Storms and inclimate weather manages my time. I have lost the commonsense tool that has worked for me since 1972 the stopwatch trucking is a bad idea!

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    Richard blaine farrar

    • 1/11/2019 8:07:25 AM

    Eld has slowed freight down alot. Because if you are not near towers you get no eld signal and when you do you are in violation with dot. Very unfair for the drivers.why should the drivers have to pay for the wrong that the shipper do or the receiver's do.they should pay for it period plus overweight tickets should be on them when there's no scale around but the dot scales. You want to keep Eyes on the truck drives but not on the ones that are breaking the law how stupid is the law ?? Drivers should be held responsible for their safety and pre-trip and their actions on the road and off this eld stops freight and makes trouble for all thats involved with the trip. So get things right so it works like a perfect clock....... driver's are not the only one's at fault here even the white house is at fault here...

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    Ethel E Attaway

    • 1/16/2019 1:21:18 PM

    We are an LTL trucking company. Waiting at the shippers and receivers docks is killing our ELD driving time. Our drivers may drive 4 - 8 hours and have to shut down because they are out of hours. This limits the amount of actual work that we can now accomplish. Trucking companies are being punished by shippers and receivers for being late with extra fees. Most times these delays are not the drivers fault. I cannot understand how the government can regulate a transportation company ( a private company) and not regulate the shipping and receiving of products.

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